The fulltime thing is def. true atleast they made it to the big shows.Im sure alot of attention is on BJ thats to be expected he's the champ.Work is definitely a factor.Some of my favorite hawaii fighters are out his camp. Mike,Ross,Kaynan,Shane, and one unheard of Maka watson remember that name.You cant say they arent top guys in hawaii, STOP HATING N START SUPPORTING HAWAII FIGHTERS no matter what gym theyre from.

The fulltime thing is def. true atleast they made it to the big shows.Im sure alot of attention is on BJ thats to be expected he's the champ.Work is definitely a factor.Some of my favorite hawaii fighters are out his camp. Mike,Ross,Kaynan,Shane, and one unheard of Maka watson remember that name.You cant say they arent top guys in hawaii, STOP HATING N START SUPPORTING HAWAII FIGHTERS no matter what gym theyre from.

Hey I asked a fair question. You guys are to sensitive thinking I picking on BJs Team. I'm not, I'm just sayin that BJ is one of top p4p and one of the best LWs in world so why can't his same team turn out better talent. Its not like I asking why can't Bulls Pen or HMC doesn't turn out top guys cuz they don't have BJ Penn there and they don't have coaches flying in to teach or UFC level training partners or a big nice gym paid for by BJs success and money. BJs camp get all the ingredients and I think is fair to ask why not more top talent come out of that gym?



Hawaii fighters gotta stop using weak sauce argument that they not as good as mainland guys cuz Hawaii guys got jobs. Shane Carwin is UFC's #1 undefeated HW contender and he going fight Brock Lesnar and he STILL WORKS A FULL TIME JOB AS A ENGINEER. Carwin been KOing guys in the UFC while having this job all this time. Brett Rogers KOd Andre Arlovski and Rogers been working full time at a tire shop his whole career. He only just now quit for Fedor fight. Lots of great mainland fighters have jobs. Damn Hawaii get some fighters who don't even have jobs why aren't they world champs? lol.

well this is what ive heard, it is bjs gym but its not like bj is there 100% of the time training his fighters all the time. as for the top trainers and other top fighters coming in, its only when bj is training for a fight and they conentrate on bj. but they do use his other fighters as training partners or fillers for bj. from what i heard its bj whos paying them to come down not his other fighters so yes they do concentrate on bj.